Classic Chrome Electric Fiat 500

Electric Classics: Evolution or Vandalism?

Should we convert a classic car or vehicle to electric or not?

ERS Insurance commissioned YouGov to conduct a UK survey on this question. Only 19% of respondents agreed it was OK and 43% disagreed (we assume the other 38% were “don’t knows”). So if this survey is anything to go by, most of you reading this will consider the very idea of an electric classic to be a form of iconoclasm akin to ripping the original features out of a period house and leaving it with a soulless interior, devoid of its history.

OK, so we’re not being hugely scientific with our research here but the anecdotal feel we get when we go out and about to car shows and the like is that there is a large majority opposed to the idea of electrifying the powertrain of classic cars.

Electric car charging

Like many other things, we don’t think there’s a binary “yes or no” answer to this question. Others will disagree; some will say that saving the planet is more important than anything else, and soon fossil fuel-driven transport will be banned or become prohibitively expensive anyway. At the other end of the spectrum there’s a constituency that says that any modification of any sort to a classic car should be punishable by life imprisonment, as a bare minimum.

In a way there’s a big irony to the whole Electric Vehicle debate. The first production electric car was invented by Englishman Thomas Parker in 1884. Parker was also responsible for electrifying the London Underground and other British public transport networks. He invented “Coalite”, a smokeless low-temperature coke (coal derivative). He was concerned about air pollution in London. How times sometimes don’t change……….that was towards the end of the 19th century.

Thomas Parker's 1884 Electric Car
Thomas Parker’s 1884 Electric Car

By the 2nd decade of the 20th century there were still more electric vehicles than combustion engine powered vehicles, but that changed rapidly as fuel became cheaply available and the design and cost of combustion-engined cars improved markedly.

Part of the aura of a classic car (and many other cars) is the sound, behaviour, construction and power of its engine. The engine, it is said, is what gives a classic car its personality. There is truth in that.

What do we think? No one can give an answer that will make everyone happy, or even one that won’t at least make some people angry, but here we go…….

We wouldn’t really support the idea of putting an electric motor in a Ferrari F12. On the other hand Rimac of Croatia is developing an electric supercar, the Rimac Concept 2, that can allegedly go from 0-60mph in 1.85 seconds, and we think others should develop that idea as the norm.

Rimac Concept 2
The Rimac Concept 2 Electric Supercar

How about an electric Citroën DS? As Fifth Gear’s Jonny Smith (@CarPervert on Twitter) said during a debate on the matter in February this year: “I would buy a Citroen DS and convert it to EV tomorrow because it would float along like a flying saucer and it would suit that car”. We agree, and it’s not as if the Citroën DS is an especially rare car either. We’d like to think there’ll always be Citroën DS and other classics that have petrol engines. We’re less convinced about diesels though 😉

Another committed EV enthusiast is ex-Wheeler Dealer Edd China (@TheEddChina on Twitter) who’s on record as saying that the environmental benefits of electric motors is “almost secondary to the fact it’s the performance and the fun that we get to keep having.” Edd has invented a number of electric vehicle “firsts”, including the fastest electric ice-cream van (see below). As he says in his new book Grease Junkie: A Book of Moving Parts “In 1900, 38% of the cars sold in America were electric, 40% were steam-powered and only 22% had what they called ‘exploding engines’…..”. We could well be heading back to a majority position for electric motoring, within which classic vehicles will play their part.

Edd China and his electric ice cream van
Edd China & the World’s Fastest Electric Ice Cream Van

We think it’s important to ensure that classic cars are able to outlive the routine availability of the fuels upon which the combustion engine depends. There will always be entirely original classics; there must be. But we can’t assume there’ll always be the fuel they need, at least not in the way it’s available now.

We’re currently busy sourcing classic 1950s and 1960s Fiat chassis for electric conversions. The 500s and 600Ds make brilliant little city cars. Some people are thinking ahead and acting with their heads as well as their hearts when they seriously consider an electric classic purchase or conversion.

The Microlino: reminds us all of the BMW Isetta

Change is always difficult. It helps when you can influence or manage change, even if you’d rather it didn’t happen. Ferrari and others are doing exciting things with both hybrid and electric cars. Microlino is the electric reincarnation of the BMW Isetta microcar. Love it or loathe it or anything in between, we need to take it seriously.

We guess that the winds of change are upon us when Harry and Meghan, the newly-married Duke and Duchess of Sussex, headed off in an electric E-Type Jaguar in front of several gazillion TV viewers.

The Duke & Duchess od Sussex and their electric Jaguar
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and their Electric E-Type Jaguar

Featured Fiat 500 EV by Classic Chrome of London.

Autobianchi Bianchina Jolly
Italian Classic Cars and Chassis

Italian Classics

Back in 2013/14 we went on a trip to Italy to source cars for a major Warner Brothers film and we found ourselves in Rome, Milan, Bologna, Ancona and elsewhere. It was a fantastic trip in wonderful summer weather and the cars…….., oh the cars!

We were focused on 1950s and 1960s cars and we saw some beauties: the Autobianchi Bianchina in both hardtop and “Trasformabile” style, the ubiquitous but iconic and quirky Fiat 500, the Fiat 600d – an increasingly rare gem of a car, the Fiat Topolino, the Fiat Multipla… name it, we saw it.

We bought a beautiful powder blue Fiat 600d with suicide doors, 2 Fiat 500 Giardiniera in red and white respectively (if we’d found a green one we’d have had a Tricolore) and a gorgeous 1953 Fiat Topolino.

Fast forward 5 years and Quirky Rides has developed good relationships with trusted Italian suppliers of pretty much any classic Italian car. But this isn’t just us acquiring your dream Italian classic in concours condition, although we certainly do that; there’s more.

We’re increasingly involved in supplying rolling chassis for electric conversion, in which case we supply the chassis of your choice, either RHD or LHD, with the interior of your choice carefully bubble-wrapped and stowed inside the carefully detailed rolling chassis ready for EV conversion. Delivery is to pretty much anywhere.

Fiat Multipla and Jolly chassis
Fiat Multipla and Jolly chassis

We know there’s a debate around classic EV conversions, i.e. should you or shouldn’t you do it? This is a debate for another day, another blog post. But soon, so watch this space!

Of course, electric conversions/EVs are one thing, the supply of original classic cars and chassis is another. Try finding a decent RHD Fiat 600d in the UK. They’re very rare, we know, we just sold one. Fiat did make some for UK export in the 1960s but the huge majority have rotted into nothing. There are very few 600Ds on UK roads and we’d guess most are Italian domestic imports.

But if you want a RHD Fiat 600D chassis or car, we’ll get you one in whatever condition you want. And not just the Fiat 600D. How about a Fiat Multipla? An original or a replica? RHD or LHD? Just ask.

fiat 500 trasformabile
Fiat 500 Trasformabile

We mentioned our 1953 Fiat Topolino (the predecessor to the Fiat 500), which we bought for film work, showed at the NEC Classic Car Show and then sold. Well, we miss it! We’re sorely tempted by this excellent restored Topolino chassis which, as our supplier commented: “will never rust again”. But tempted we’ll have to remain as it’s available “as is” for whatever future purpose you intend for it, or as the basis of a Fiat Topolino built to your specification.

Fiat Topolino Chassis for use as an EV conversion or restoration back to an original classic car.
Fiat Topolino Chassis

Fiat icon Gianni Agnelli had a Fiat 600D “Jolly” designed and made for him to take his family and guests from his villa to his private beach. Now you might not have a villa with a private beach, or maybe you do, but you can have a Fiat 600D Jolly if you want one. Just ask!

Autobianchi Bianchina Jolly interior
Autobianchi Bianchina Jolly interior

Actually, you can have any kind of “Jolly” in any configuration: Autobianchi Bianchina (see above), Fiat 600D, Fiat 500, Fiat Multipla……..

We also have a very rare RHD Fiat 850 Super. When did you last see one of them? We’ll post up some pics of it soon as it’s a joy to behold. But by way of a parting shot, have a look at what’s going on at the HQ of Quirky Rides’ Italian outfit, and get in touch: we’d love to hear from you

Quirky Rides' Italian car restoration garage: tell us what you want and we'll make it so.
Quirky Rides’ Italian car restoration garage